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21 Jan 2008
Disassembling a car properly takes a long time and a lot of work. A good way to minimize the hours and dollars you spend putting it back together is by doing things slowly, methodically and carefully. The pace will be slow because you need to document every step. It needs to be methodical to keep your enthusiasm from getting ahead of yourself. You must be patient and do things carefully to avoid breaking anything. Park the car so that it will be easy to work on because it may stay there for a while, take a deep breath and get started.Difficulty: AverageTime Required: 5 - 7 days
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21 Jan 2008
When ever we are considering a car that might be a potential for purchase, we use this 90 point inspection check list. And never make an offer unless each point has been evaluated thoroughly and then discussed with a trusted mechanic. When you love older cars as we do, it is very easy to be intoxicated by them. This list helps us take off the "beer goggles" and see the car for what it really is and what it might do to our budget.Difficulty: AverageTime Required: 1 to 2 hours
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21 Jan 2008
The collector-car world loves Mopars right now; witness the regular six-figure pricing that correct Plymouths and Dodges are netting when they cross the auction block. This has made Julius Steuer's life a lot more difficult.
"Right now, we're doing a 440 Six Pack Challenger convertible. Everything in it had to be changed-the quarters, the floors... it's going to have $35,000 in bodywork when it's done. Five years ago, that's all these cars were worth! Now, you have to do it." In his years in the business, Julius has become one of the nation's premiere Mopar restorers-he was putting Mopars back together when Mopars weren't cool. His dad was a Mopar man, and bought a 383 four-speed Belvedere in '67; that car ended up in Julius' hands a year later, and it's been all Mopars ever since. Restorations by Julius has been in its current location in Chatsworth, California, for more than a decade; he underwrites the twice-yearly Mopar "Fling" events in nearby Van Nuys, and he is the West Coast's go-to guy for Mopar restorations, restifications and refurbishment. It also means that despite the ravages of time, the number of cars worth restoring are somehow increasing. "In the last three or four years, cars not worth restoring are now suddenly worth restoring. I like to say that we're getting cars from deeper out of the lake now... we used to get them from the shoreline, and now when we find them they're completely underwater. No one stands out as being particularly outstanding, but we've brought plenty of cars back from the dead." He offers no particular example, but the ravages of time haven't made it any easier. A couple of these corpses are parked out in the back lot: A Daytona Charger, trunk floor and driver's footwell perforated with rot, a rear window plug (minus window) rotted 360 degrees around the opening. It's shocking enough to find a wing car that hasn't been restored and sent across the auction block three times in its life, much less one that's field-stripped and looks ready for the boneyard. Next to it resides a Challenger convertible under a tarp; it was originally a particularly putrid shade of avocado, has had a couple of fenders replaced over the years (one of which appears to be purple, under the peeling black paint), and features quarters and doors that are soaked in surface rust. The tarp goes back on out of respect for the dead. Bring Julius a rotten piece of Highland Park steel and it'll take 18 months to make it look like new again; rather a lot of that, he confesses, is involved in getting quality bodywork done. These things take time, and the body shops Julius farms the metalwork out to are meticulous in their craft. That, and some issues with Mopar Performance's crate-engine cylinder heads at the moment, are all that keeps him from stepping up his volume. A factory Curious Yellow '71 Cuda ragtop is in from Europe getting refreshed, along with a crate Hemi being slipped into the subframe in lieu of the 318 that the factory put there. Determining which cars are "real" and which ones are resto-mods is simple: "A real car gets done by the numbers. If it's a clone, owners go all out with colors and options-rubber bumpers, 472 crate Hemis, five-speed conversions... there's no in-between. No one will bring in a red Hemi Daytona four-speed and say "paint it purple." But on a 318 or 383 Challenger, anything goes." Though a wing car and a Road Runner also inhabit the shop as we drop by, Julius' business right now is all about the '71 Cudas. "The production numbers went way down in '71 compared to '70, so it's supply and demand, but I think Nash Bridges did a lot for those cars." Not Challengers? "Challengers are now the cars you get when you can't afford a 'Cuda. Almost no one comes in and says they have to have a Challenger-everyone wants a 'Cuda, and some will settle." What about B-bodies? "Not that hot either. Road Runners and Chargers will have a following... Chargers, thanks to the Dukes of Hazzard, and Road Runners are always fun." There may be some hope for the A-bodies, though: "They might go up a little... along with the Hemi super-stockers, of course, maybe a top-of-the-line '69 Barracuda 440, or maybe a 383 4-speed convertible will be hot." C-bodies? "Never."
21 Jan 2008
Take these professionals' advice and learn what to look for Let's face it-not all of us have the tools, skills and space to restore a muscle car by ourselves. Where does this leave us? There are hundreds of restoration professionals out there who can tackle even the rustiest hulk of a formerly glorious car. Before you can choose a restoration shop, you've got to decide what you want the finished car to be (Concours-winning show car, or simply a nice driver?) and how much money you can spend to get it to that point.
When you finally own a restoration-worthy car, you'll have to determine if you can perform any aspects of the rebuild yourself, or if you'll have to farm out the entire project to specialists. If you reason that restoration is out of your league, the next step becomes the homework you'll have to do in order to pick a restoration shop that will deliver the finished product you envision while remaining close to your budget and time schedule. "Talk to other people at car shows," advises Gary Stone, a self-employed restoration specialist in Pawlet, Vermont. "Pick a car like the one you want to restore, or one that appeals to you. Talk with the owner about the restoration, and find out if any other cars at the show were done by the same restorer." You may learn of shops that specialize in GMs, Fords, Mopars or AMCs, but they aren't automatically your best choice-the best will be restorers who do the most careful and thorough work. You'll have to do a fair amount of research; call a variety of shops and speak with the owner or principal restoration specialist. Talk with them about your vision of the completed car, and ask them what they have to offer. A good shop manager will be more than happy to discuss his experience and restoration techniques, and will do the same for any of his employees. It's also important to learn if the shop stores all cars being worked on indoors, and if they carry enough insurance to cover all vehicles in the shop. As you visit prospective restoration shops, you should pay attention to the appearance of the facilities and the equipment with which it is furnished. If you've got a car that will require extensive metal fabrication, look to see if they have a metal brake, an English wheel, a shrinker/stretcher and a bead roller, among other important metalworking tools. They should also have a blast cabinet, a lathe, and a half-ton press as well as gas and MIG welding equipment. Organization and adequate space are also important in a shop. "When you're working on a car, it's often hard to keep the work space clean, but it's important that there is room to work on a car and good access to the parts and equipment that will be needed," says Joe Myers of Myers Classic and Custom in Palmer, Massachusetts. The reputation of a shop is extremely important, as is the satisfaction of its former customers. Ralph Prueitt of Al Prueitt & Sons in Glen Rock, Pennsylvania, offers advice: "Stop in the local parts store and ask the guys how (the restoration shop is). They'll always tell you-they never pay on time, or, they're great guys who do good work." Contacting old customers is also a smart bet. "A restoration shop should be willing to give you the phone numbers of previous clients," Joe adds. "You should talk to those clients about what was done to their cars, and look at (the work) if possible." You will sometimes come across shops that advertise both collision work and auto restoration. While most restoration professionals focus solely on restoration work, some shops combine it with collision repair. Some restorers caution against using a combination shop, arguing that collision expertise isn't restoration expertise and that prompt work and attention to detail can suffer. Tom Kazanji, owner of Redz Auto Collision and Restorations in White Plains, New York, has been restoring cars for years and disagrees. "I don't do that much collision work anymore; there are a lot of guys here who handle it," he says, explaining that his Shark laser measuring machine forms a de facto line of demarcation between the everyday insurance work and the restoration work he handles personally. When you feel comfortable with a shop, it's important to discuss all the particulars of the costs that occur during a restoration. Tom says that his labor rate is $65 an hour, but explains, "I job-cost every single project that comes through here, because the materials are exorbitant. You're talking $2,000 to $3,000 per car just for paint, primer and painting supplies. I have a 1970-1/2 Z/28 in here now that's going to cost $10,000 just to paint. You have to understand, these are projects that can take four to five months to finish. It's not like Mrs. Smith, whose Honda Accord gets smacked up and it's gone from here in three days." When you've chosen your restoration shop, get a written estimate for the labor, materials and parts required for the project, but remember that estimates are subject to change. "It's difficult to figure an exact price on any restoration," Gary says. "I'll have a general idea of what it will cost, but even my best guesses are often low. You've got to be prepared to spend more money," Tom adds, depending on the situation, a car's restoration may end up costing many times its value. A shop that specializes in your car may change a flat rate, with a clause for extra charges due to unforeseen additional work, while a general restorer may charge for labor, materials and parts separately. A deposit is often required to secure services and begin the parts ordering process. Be aware that better restoration shops will often have substantial waiting lists, ranging from months to years. "Any good restoration shop will be booked for at least a year," explains Mopar restoration specialist Dennis Kohr of Kohr's Kustoms in Myerstown, Pennsylvania. "If you can get into a shop right away, you should question the quality of its work. My waiting list is between three and four years; as soon as we finish a car here, another one rolls in. I usually have five cars in the shop at any one time, and full-blown restorations can take a year. There is so much down-time... I let primer set for 30 days before sanding it for paint." Once a restoration begins, most good restorers want to remain in touch with the car's owner to allow progress updates as well as to keep abreast of potential financial issues. If the shop you've chosen isn't within reasonable driving distance, be sure to ask for detailed photographs on a regular basis. |
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